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1965 HONDA C200 90cc

After passing my test on a Triumph Tina Scooter I wanted a better bike. A friend of mine had just bought a Honda C110 50cc and so I went to a local dealer to find a bike. The 1965 Honda C200 was second hand at £50 in 1968, which was all I could afford to borrow of my dad and paid him back £1 per week. It turned out to be an excellent bike which carried two 9 stone teenagers all over the place. Finally we sold it when we got married. I did all my own work on it with the help of a Honda Manual, Honda T-bar Screw Driver and a set of metric ring spanners. The later two I still have.

 

The C200 was a wonderful machine which was not seen or recognised by most people, because of the popular Honda C50 'Step through' and the C110. When you say you had a Honda 90, everyone thinks of the scooter-ette, and yet the C200 was everything a bike could be for it's capacity. It was smart and nippy, frugal on fuel and utterly reliable. The engine used to look a bit odd, sticking out in front, but it always started first kick and the choke lever was only needed for cold starting, and was easily accessible on the carb. None of the mess of flooding the carb and petrol spilling onto the engine each time.

The four-stroke single engine would tick-over quietly and relatively smoothly and even when cruising it never made much noise or vibration. The exhaust silencer had a removable baffle which could be cleaned and providing it was put back the noise was akin to a sewing machine. I used to get all the stick (jibes) of it being Japanese and it would not last, but who cares, it did a great job and it did not leak oil. General usage was two-up most of the time and fifty five was the top speed although we were 9 stone (126 pound) kids at the time. The engine consisted of an aluminum crankcase with an iron barrel, cylinder head with overhead rockers and pushrods. The C200 was a practical machine. The power plant was of unit construction combining the gearbox and engine together where the engine oil was serving both units. The oil was filtered by a centrifugal action which had a cover plate held in place by two 6mm screws. I was told you never needed to clean this, but mine got done. Unlike the C50/C90, the clutch was actuated by a traditional lever on the handle bar. It was light and responsive, enabling gear changes to be made smoothly using the heal and toe pedal, or if you were a 'real man' you just used the toe in the conventional manner. Fast changes were possible, but this was no racer. The gear change was performed by two selector forks following a groove which was cut into a cylindrical drum giving four speeds from the box. Carb noise was reduced by the use of a paper filter cartridge which was housed under the side panel. Another feature was the fuel tap which incorporated a fuel filter and had a reserve position as well, which was unheard of on British bikes like the BSA C15. The carb had a removable float chamber which was held in place by a wire clip.

The engine would accelerate to peak revs smoothly with a complete lack of fuss and at normal cruising speeds - 45 to 48 mph - power delivery was notably sweet and effortless. In traffic she was wonderful with acceleration which exceeded expectation from the little capacity engine and when you got out onto the open road it was fun, which you could enjoy without killing yourself. I recall once that my girlfriend had to get off and walk to the top of a very steep incline which came after a sharp bend an so left no momentum, but in the main it was a sterling machine on which we traveled up to 150 miles two-up with suit cases as well. Very fuel efficient, although these were the days when we paid less than 5 shillings a gallon (25 pence today). The Ninety was extremely comfortable with it's upright riding position and all the controls handy, with positive and light in operation. The seat consisted of a large sponge covered in vinyl with a pillion strap. My cover split exposing the orange sponge, but this was sorted by a slip over cover.


Cast iron barrel and head which had pushrod valve gear. 

Fuses are alongside the battery.

The rear suspension was rather bouncy and this was not helped by the square section rear tyres of the day. The brakes were adequate although the front one in particular tended to be a little spongy in action. The electrics were up to the usual excellent Honda standard and included a neutral-indicator light, flashing indicators, speedometer light, stop light, pilot light and amply powerful main beam. Flashing indicators were of course for the 'pansies' in those days, and any real motorcyclist would use arm signals. (The fact being that most British models were not fitted with indicators as they would have vibrated them to bits is probably more like it). The speedometer was an odd shape for it's time, but would not look out of place today. In bad weather the rider was protected by deeply valanced mudguards and the rear chain was fully enclosed in a chain case. The centre stand was not to hot as it pivoted on a thin walled tube which was not up to the job. My C200 was a great little bike with plenty of power, good cruising speed, ultra economy and complete oil tightness and worth every penny of my £50. I holed a piston which led to a rebore and new piston and later the roller big-end went requiring a replacement crank unit, also a broken earth wire in the rear light unit, these being the only problems encountered in the two to three years I owned her. If memory serves me right, it cost £10 for the rebore and piston and £13-50 for the crank replacement. My bike was blue, but they also came in red and black.
BRIEF SPECIFICATION
Engine  Honda 87 cc (49 x 46 mm) ohv single. Crankshaft supported by journal ball bearings; caged roller big-end bearing, cast-iron cylinder head and barrel, compression ratio 8 to 1 
Carburation  Keihin PWI8HA with direct shutter for cold starting. 
Electrical Equipment  AC generator, Coil ignition with six-amp-hour betted charged through selenium rectifier, Approximately 5 1/2in diameter headlamp with 25/25-watt main bulb; flashing indicators; neutral indicator light. 
Transmission  Four-speed gear box in unit with ending; rocking-pedal foot control, Gear ratios: bottom, 25.2; second, 16', third, 11 .8: top, 9.51 to 1. Multi-plate clutch, Primary drive by spur gears, Rear chain enclosed in pressed-steel case. Engine rpm at 30 in top gear, 4,400. 
Fuel Capacity  approximately 1 .9 gallons 
Tyres  Nitto 2.50 x 17 in front and rear. 
Brakes  Approximately 5 inches in diameter, front and rear, with finger adjusters. 
Suspension  Hydraulically damped pivoted front and rear forks. 
Dimensions  Wheelbase, 47 in, Ground clearance, 7 in, Seat height, 30 in, All un-laden. 
Turning Circle  11 feet. 
Weight  115lb fully equipped and with approximately one gallon of petrol. 
Price   £124. 18s. including British purchase tax.
Road Tax   £1 a year. 
PERFORMANCE DATA 
Maximum Speed  53 mph (with following wind) 51 mph (average of runs in both directions).
Acceleration  Quarter-mile from rest, 29 seconds with a terminal speed of 48 mph (average of runs in opposite directions). 
Fuel Consumption  175 mpg at 30 mph: 112 mpg at 40 mph. 
Braking  37ft from 30 mph (surface, dry tarmac). 
 
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